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Saul Goode

Dan..

You flipping moron.

1) The caller was nervous about being on air, not about being prosecuted.

2)Barry Obama's campaign had robo-calls encouraging Republicans to cross over and vote for him.

3) I, Saul Goode, voted for Hillary.

4)Democrats have been doing it for years. Look at Kos's blog, you idiot.

As Lawrence Eagleburger said, quit being an hysterical little girl.

Dave in Texas

Hey Dan, I voted for Hill. Bite my clank.

Snoop Diggity-DANG-Dawg

Typical white people.

Daniel Ruwe

Uh...I voted in Ohio, and I didn't have to sign anything. I'm not sure what happened there, but it looks like I will get away with voting for Hillary, even though I'm not a Democrat. A perfect crime.

Dan Abrams

You just made the list, Daniel.

 Lisa J

Do silly libs ever tire of feigning outrage?

Oh and Dan, I do love your hair now that you switched from black shoepolish to Grecian Formula.
Nice choice sister girl.

mesablue

I wanted to vote twice in Michigan, but the idiot dem's couldn't get their act together.

cranky

I thought I saw Dan's eyes mist up as he had a Hillary moment.

What a pussy.

Easydoesit

Dan's a pussy!

Heh!

Trey

lol! this guy is hysterical!

aren't these the people who flipped out over "loyalty oaths" at bush rallies to keep code pink screechers from disrupting events?

rick hasen is correct. in fact, progressives openly tried to throw the michigan gop primary two months ago...
dailykos*com/story/2008/1/10/2713/87225/55/434206

Easydoesit

Sorry cranky, I didn't see your most excellent post first, YOU WIN!

Trey

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/10/2713/87225/55/434206

Trey

obama was recently promoting his work with "Project Vote", which was the ACORN registration fraud scandal.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/acornfraud.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px1Ut433xPU&eurl=http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/mvpv

cranky

Easydoesit, I should have copyrighted my brilliant[?] analysis. Then I could issue you cease and desist ... 8>)

I guess this is just evidence that great minds think alike.

Trey

this dan abrams douche is hysterical by the way. he almost surpasses rick sanchez in his pageantry of phony outrage...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT-1s_2Yohg&feature=related

Kufar

Waahahahahaha.

Totally Un American unless your candidate benefits. That is the game the dems play. Dan Abrams is a total PUSS. Last Word -
Proove IT.

noteasilyfooled

The guy in Ohio that wrote "For only one day", legally changed the contract. It was acepted by those who gave it to him. He's off the hook.

doubleplusundead

Hello Cuffy, this is doubleplusundead.

Thanks for the linkage!

Neoconnews.com

Why is he bouncing up and down so much? Is he so overly excited about the prospect of nailing Rush on something? Pathetic.

mike in chicago

My father used to say..."the great thing about this country is, when you close the curtain of that voting booth, nobody can tell you what to do". That should end all arguements.

Scott

oh Danny my boy... where did you find that stellar hair piece?

Scott

i seriously believe Dan Abrams has a hard on behind that desk during this story. Just a little too excited

Jaibones

Hilarious watching this butt-sniffing little queer whining, and trying to blink his tears away.

And their makeup and lighting seem ill-conceived on that show. They all look like they're doing a high school musical.

roux

Abrams as usual is just spouting his idiocy.

Ed Stanowicz

Hey Dan - BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

joe from Chi

A "loyalty oath" that is enforceable by law?? HAHAHA What a bunch of fascists!

BERT CONVY

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WOW... this has got to be the worst case of blubbering I have ever seen. The fact that it is on MSNBC is once again proof how in the tank they are for the democrats. Boo-Hoo Gad.

*bert

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ChrisMeihass

Dan ..you are a fool...kiss my ass and get the fack off my TV you jerk....

Tom

Wow! What a world - utterly lawless, America hating leftists like Dan Abrams and Jeralyn Merritt actually call themselves "lawyers".

Editor

Operation Chaos=Liberals operation crap pants!

darnthefirst

they should pass a law making it illegal once you turn Republican to ever again be able to vote Democrat

Mephitis

I'm totally confused.

Someone signed an oath to uphold the Democrat principles. (I want to see those, BTW)

And then they vote for a Democrat in the Primary.

Case closed. Didn't they just vote as they pledged?

And in the REAL election, the curtain is closed, and you can vote as you please, and no one can know. If someone knows, then it is definitely a felony ... just knowing.

Soooo There is no crime ever committed.

What did I miss?

Ray

Ohio can suck my cock, the affidavit will not hold up in Federal court period. The different parties that use this from of intimidation are them selves breaking the laws of the United States of America. I truly fell sorry for the citizens of Ohio that have to listen to the dumb people telling the rest of the world how dumb they are.

Ray

Its fucking frightening these dumb people are most likely going to vote in the general election. I’m voting for Ron Paul no matter what, McCain is an idiot, Obama is a racist and Hilary will like her husband is just another rich does not give a rat’s ass about the poor tree hugging hippie.

Ron S.

I hope they do throw that phony chickenhawk Limbaugh in jail. And they could add to his sentence the lie about the cyst on his ass to get his deferment and dodge the draft during the Vietnam War.

Ron S.

Operation Chaos = Operation Chickenhawk

cranky

Ron S. seems to have a hardon for Rush Limbaugh. What's the matter Ron S., he refused your advances and you've got that spurned lover revenge rage mojo working?

And Ron I did more than 20 years from Vietnam to Desert Storm so take your chickenhawk argument, wrap it around a pineapple, and shove it up your ass sideways. You. liberal. pussy.

Ron S.

"And Ron I did more than 20 years from Vietnam to Desert Storm so take your chickenhawk argument..."
(cranky)

What does that have to do with Lardbaugh's draft dodging? He was awarded a medical deferment by his family doctor during time of war, and then years later promotes sending others overseas to fight his battles for him.

Sorry cranky, but your idol Lardbaugh is a Chickenhawk, plain and simple. As is Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Sean Hannity, Bill Bennett, etc., etc.

I suppose next you're gonna tell me George Bush wasn't a DESERTER.
(Ron S., USAF, '67-71)

Ron S.

"You. liberal. pussy."
(cranky)

"Whenever liberals can't make a substantive argument, they always resort to name-calling."
(Rush Lardbaugh)

Pssst, cranky...sounds like he's talking about you...

cranky

Ron, his doctor could not award him a deferrment, only a Draft Board could. The Army would not accept anyone for service with a pilinoidal cyst.

Speaking of draft dodgers, what are Howard Dean and Bill Clinton up to these days?

Bush more than fulfills his Guard obligation and he's a deserter? Really? You're pretty fucking desperate, aren't you Ron. How long after you got your draft notice did you enlist in the AF to avoid the Army? You made a real fucking mess out of my Air Force with your drug use, racism, and whining.

One other question for you Ron: how do you feel about John Kerry's magic dishonorable discharge upgrade?

cranky,
USAF, 1973 - 1997

Ron S.

"Ron, his doctor could not award him a deferrment, only a Draft Board could."

Bullshit cranky. I was there, and hundreds of thousands of guys received medical deferments ON THE RECOMMENDATION of their family physicians.

"Bush more than fulfills his Guard obligation and he's a deserter?"

There are 700 guys (including the C.O., Gen. William Turnispeed) at Dannelly AFB in '72 who disagree, crafty. They NEVER saw Bush there, he was a no-show, thereby constituting desertion.

Here's a cute little poem about your idol:
Rush said he supported the war,
When the draft called he knew what for;
On his rear was cyst,
Vietnam he would miss,
'Cuz his bummy was just too sore.

cranky

"On the recommendation of" is not the same as awarding a deferment. The board can award a deferrment -- that is my point.

Seven hundred guys in some squadron did not see Bush? I don't know of any squadron that had 700 people assigned. Did you get their names? Were they assigned to the same squadron at the same time? Did they have drill on the same weekends? You seem pretty desperate to make this true. My memory of General Turnipseed's comments is that he didn't remember Bush. How many general officers remember some lieutenant? Unless they the LT does something extraordinarily good, or bad, they are not memorable.

And here I thought Bush was in a Texas National Guard unit, not an Alabama Air National Guard Unit. Which is it, Ron? Remember all that Dan Rather 'documentation' regarding Bush's favorable entrance into the Guard? So, which is it Ron?

You aren't going to convince me and I'm not going to convince you. You are an angry and bitter person. Get help.

Ron S.

From www.awolbush.com:

"Bush left Houston May 15, 1972 and went to work on a political campaign in Alabama. His first request for a transfer on May 24 was denied because the unit was inactive. His second request on September 5 to a different unit was granted. He was issued a direct order to report on specific days to the base, which he completely ignored. The order was issued on September 15 to report to then-Lieutenant Colonel William Turnipseed at Dannelly Air Force base in Montgomery, AL, on the dates of “7-8 October 0730-1600, and 4-5 November 0730-1600” His orders, dated Sept. 15, 1972, said: "Lieutenant Bush should report to Lt. Col. William Turnipseed, DCO, to perform equivalent training." [Boston Globe 5/23/00] http://www.cis.net/~coldfeet/doc11.gif

His Commanding Officer, William Turnipseed, says he did not show up.

"To my knowledge, he never showed up," Turnipseed said last month. [Boston Globe 5/23/00] In interviews last week, Turnipseed and his administrative officer at the time, Kenneth K. Lott, said they had no memory of Bush ever reporting. ''Had he reported in, I would have had some recall, and I do not,'' Turnipseed said. ''I had been in Texas, done my flight training there. If we had had a first lieutenant from Texas, I would have remembered.'' Turnipseed also reports that the then-squadron operations officer of the Alabama Guard also has no recollection of having seen Bush.(The New Republic 10/16/2000)

“Furthermore, a spokesman for the Alabama National Guard estimates there were 600 to 700 members in the unit Bush was supposed to have served with in 1972. But none of these men has ever come forward to say he remembers Bush, and Bush has not named a single one of them.”(The New Republic 10/16/2000)

There is no official National Guard record for George W. Bush’s service in Alabama.

“His official discharge records do not include any service after May 15 of 1972. Indeed, Bush's discharge papers list his service and duty station for each of his first four years in the Air Guard. But there is no record of training listed after May 1972, and no mention of any service in Alabama. On that discharge form, Lloyd (Albert Lloyd Jr., a retired colonel who was the Texas Air Guard's personnel director from 1969 to 1995 and was hired by the Bush campaign to make sense of the governor's military records) said, ''there should have been an entry for the period between May 1972 and May 1973.'' Said Lloyd, ''It appeared he had a bad year. He might have lost interest, since he knew he was getting out.'' [Boston Globe 5/23/00]

No one in the Alabama National Guard ever saw him.

“A spokesman for the Alabama National Guard estimates there were 600 to 700 members in the unit Bush was supposed to have served with in 1972. But none of these men has ever come forward to say he remembers Bush, and Bush has not named a single one of them.” (The New Republic 10/16/2000)

Even though members of the Alabama Air National Guard have offered $1000 to anyone who can remember serving with Bush, no one has come forward to corroborate his service, with the exception of an old girlfriend who says she remembers him saying he was going, but does not have any other evidence, essentially making it her word against Bush’s commanding officers’ and a lack of official documents as noted above.

Even the Bush campaign claims that he only showed up on a single day in November and made up missed weekends, not contesting the fact that he defied direct orders to appear on the dates stated above.

“National Guard records provided by the Guard and by the Bush campaign indicate he did serve on Nov. 29, 1972, after the election. These records also show a gap in service from that time to the previous May. Mr. Bush says he made up for the lost time in subsequent months, and guard records show he received credit for having performed all the required service.” [NYT 7/22/00]

The evidence to support Bush’s service on November 29, 1972 is highly suspect for the following reasons:

The document offered to dispute the claim by his commanding officers in Alabama is a single torn document that does not have Bush’s name on it, is undated and unsigned. The document was “discovered” in 1998 by the man Bush hired to investigate his record, Al Loyd, and added to the official record. This late addition to the official record also raises additional chain of command issues.

There are two different versions of the document. The one ‘discovered’ by Mr. Loyd and given to George Magazine has handwritten annotations. The other version came from Mr. Bush’s official record through a FOIA request by Martin Heldt. http://www.cis.net/~coldfeet/doc99.gif The FOIA version did not have any annotations.

The document comes from the Texas National Guard Archives according to the numbering in the right hand corner of the document, even though duty reports were localized at the time, meaning his service in Alabama would not have been recorded by the Texas Air National Guard."


Cuffy Meigs

Please copy-paste your stuff elsewhere, Ron.

Ron S.

I would just like to personally compliment Dan Abrams on this issue, for calling a spade a spade, and a gas-bag phony a gas-bag phony.

Cuffy Meigs

By Dan's lights, Kos is a spade as well.

Ron S.

""On the recommendation of" is not the same as awarding a deferment."
(cranky)

Yes it is, exactly the same fucking thing. From the biography "The Rush Limbaugh Story" by Paul Colford, Chapter 2, "Beating the draft"...

Lardbaugh has told at least 3 different lies about his draft-dodging over the years:
1***That his deferment was for a "football knee" (disproven by Colford, it was actually an ingrown hair on his ass);
2***That he (sought out and) received a deferment before the lottery took place (also disproven by Colford's research);
and 3)***That he had a high draft number and wouldn't have been drafted anyway (his #152 was well below the 190 cutoff for that summer of 1970).

Ron S.

"You made a real fucking mess out of my Air Force with your drug use, racism, and whining."

I didn't do any of those things cranky, but I know George Bush did. And don't forget the $1 million worth of training he wasted by missing a mandatory physical and being permanently grounded.

cranky

Cuffy, sorry for keeping Ron busy with his copy and paste. What a bitter man. If it were someone else I would say it is sad.

Cuffy Meigs

Don't apologize for him, cranky. If he wants to copy-paste a bunch of garbage about a dead horse issue from 4 years ago, he can get his own fucking blog.

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